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Thread: [Acro] Fw: which plane to start aerobatics in?
Message: [Acro] Fw: which plane to start aerobatics in?
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From: "Brent Rogers" <1brogers at rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:25:20 UTC
Many thanks Mike for a very fair and accurate assessment of the Zlin 242L.
While it might be a little more expensive that some of the others, the all metal
construction and side by side seating are worth it.
I have experience with both the 142 and 242 and I currently have a 242L for sale.
See details at http://www.realtimetools.com/GGRL/index_ggrl.htm or for full details contact me directly.
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Brent Rogers | CPL, ASELS, IA
Toronto, Ontario | COPA # 134213
Canada | AOPA # 772585 7
1brogers at rogers.com | IAC # 24428, Chapter 88
| Aerobatics Canada, Chapter 3
| Zlin 242L, C-GJHB, s/n 733
| Zlin 242L, C-GRRL, s/n 688
| PA-32RT-300T, C-GGYM, Turbo Lance
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Ganor" <mikeganor at yahoo.com>
To: <acro at gf24.de>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 7:09 PM
Subject: [Acro] Re: intro and -- which plane to start aerobatics in?
> I would also add in the Zlin 142 as
> a possibility.
>
> The 142, as I understand it, is basically
> a Zlin 242 with a different engine, and minus
> the flared plastic wingtips. Also, the 142
> is not certified and probably can be found
> for somewhere in the mid 40k range.
>
> I spent my first 25 hours or so of dual aerobatic
> instruction in a 242 and found it to be an excellent
> trainer. The cockpit has a neat layout, the
> side by side seating is great for early acro training
> as well as taking a friend for the dinner run, dash
> has very good lighting for night flights, there's
> a reasonably sized shelf behind the seats for a couple
> of small bags and visibility out of the large
> bubble canopy is excellent and makes the plane
> very easy to get into and out of. It has tricycle
> gear, is all metal and the stick has a very good
> consistent feel to it.
>
> Doing all the sportsman manuevers is well within the
> aircraft's capabilities. The 242 also snaps very
> well,
> however I have been told that the 142 is not approved
> for snaps because of the engine/crankshaft it uses.
> The 242 was a bit on the slow side, the 142 might be a
> little quicker to gain speed due to the cowling and
> wingtip design.
>
> A final note, the 242 had a limited cg range for acro;
> two large people with the seats all the way back would
> be aft cg. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the
> 142 with the other engine had better numbers there;
> check it out.
>
> A second final note,
> Spin recovery is slightly different and just requires
> that you use more force and forward displacement when
> you push the stick the forward; this
> again was in a 242 and I never had any issue with
> it. The 142 should be more typical in spins - cg
> and airflow reasons, so I'm told.
>
> It's a good acro plane as well as something
> the Mrs. probably wouldn't mind spending time
> in on short cross countries.
>
> There's a picture of one at:
> http://www.gesoco.com/Used_Eastern_Aircraft.htm
>
> Best of Luck,
> -Mike
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