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ACRO E-mail Archive Thread: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.


Thread: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.

Message: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.

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From: Paul Logue <gpaulogue at>

Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:13:01 UTC


  I agree.

Since the very beginning, judging "judges", if you will, has always been about
consistency.  No matter how leaneant or severe a judge performs, if he/she
judges each flight the same way, he/she has done their job.  Even to this day,
no two judges hardly ever score a vanilla loop the same way.  What is important
is that they do it the same way to each loop they see.

Paul Logue
Suwanee, GA

Ron Saglimbene wrote:

> .
> After ten years of judging hundreds of flights, I have to scratch my head in
> wonderment when I see other judges'score sheets for a flight with scores
> ranging from 9.0 to 7.5 when I know that scores ranging from 9.5 to 3.0
> would have been more accurate. Sadly, according to JPF, I will probably be
> considered a "less meaningful" judge- since some of my marks will likely be
> out of the range of those who don't have the guts or the training to give
> more accurate scores.
> There should be a way to determine the competence of judges, but it
> shouldn't solely be based on how well they conform to "average." It should
> also confirm their ability to accurately predict the order of finish of the
> pilots- which is really what competition is all about.
> This is how I check my own performance when I judge. I get my total "raw"
> score for each pilot and I determine MY order of finish.  Then I compare it
> to the final standings. If I don't have the best three pilots finishing at
> the top of my list, and the worst at the bottom, something is wrong- and I'd
> better figure out what it is before I volunteer my opinion again.
> This information could easily be provided to each judge at the same time
> that the scores are given to the pilots. A judge would then at least be
> aware of whether he/she can discern the best pilots from the worst. It might
> encourage him/her to get more training- or maybe take up bowling instead.
> Judging is a responsibility. If a judge is trying to conform to what's
> average, he/she is missing the point. A judge that can't consistently call
> the order of finish isn't contributing to the process or being fair to the
> pilots.
> Ron Saglimbene


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