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ACRO E-mail Archive Thread: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.


Thread: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.

Message: [Acro] Re: FW: Judging, JPF's, et. al.

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From: "Olga M. M. Mitchell" <olgammm at>

Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 03:04:49 UTC


  I agree with Ron.  Does anyone know if this information is being given to 
judges at any contest?  Somebody might have to develop the software to do it.

Olga Mitchell
IAC #14229

At 09:59 AM 5/29/02 -0400, Ron Saglimbene wrote:
>After ten years of judging hundreds of flights, I have to scratch my head in
>wonderment when I see other judges'score sheets for a flight with scores
>ranging from 9.0 to 7.5 when I know that scores ranging from 9.5 to 3.0
>would have been more accurate. Sadly, according to JPF, I will probably be
>considered a "less meaningful" judge- since some of my marks will likely be
>out of the range of those who don't have the guts or the training to give
>more accurate scores.
>There should be a way to determine the competence of judges, but it
>shouldn't solely be based on how well they conform to "average." It should
>also confirm their ability to accurately predict the order of finish of the
>pilots- which is really what competition is all about.
>This is how I check my own performance when I judge. I get my total "raw"
>score for each pilot and I determine MY order of finish.  Then I compare it
>to the final standings. If I don't have the best three pilots finishing at
>the top of my list, and the worst at the bottom, something is wrong- and I'd
>better figure out what it is before I volunteer my opinion again.
>This information could easily be provided to each judge at the same time
>that the scores are given to the pilots. A judge would then at least be
>aware of whether he/she can discern the best pilots from the worst. It might
>encourage him/her to get more training- or maybe take up bowling instead.
>Judging is a responsibility. If a judge is trying to conform to what's
>average, he/she is missing the point. A judge that can't consistently call
>the order of finish isn't contributing to the process or being fair to the
>Ron Saglimbene


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