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ACRO E-mail Archive Thread: [Acro] Re: Helpful Suggestions


Thread: [Acro] Re: Helpful Suggestions

Message: [Acro] Re: Helpful Suggestions

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From: Graham Bird <g.bird at>

Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:18:08 UTC


The aerobatic rally concept has not gone away.  Jim Taylor continues his 
good work to make them a reality.  A few insurance niggles to resolve and 
they will be with us.


At 10:23 AM 7/14/2002 -0400, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>Maybe I've been out of touch for a while, but what happened to the 
>aerobatic rallies and the "Sport Division"?  Has that gone the way of the 
>One Design category?
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:thinairltd at>Stephen Seidel
>To: <mailto:rousep at>Pete & Farrell Rouse
>Cc: <mailto:acro at>acro at
>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:13 PM
>Subject: [Acro] Re: Helpful Suggestions
>It's certainly easier to complain and throw darts than to offer up concise 
>and helpful suggestions. For that I applaud you.
>Your idea of clinics has merit to bring the larger acro community 
>together. We probably all know of a dozen pilots around us who have 
>aerobatic airplanes that either no longer competete or never intend to. 
>This could prove to be a golden opportunity to include these folks and 
>help grow the sport.
>Perhaps one of these clinics could be combined with the many Airport 
>appreciation days that local airports and FBOs  put on.  Or an afternoon 
>rally, much the way the antique and hot rod car clubs have. Both these 
>events could be advertised using sponsor's  byline tags, and it may help 
>bring us together and  promote public awareness of the sport.
>Stephen Seidel
>MidHudson Aerobatic Club
>IAC 52
>Pete & Farrell Rouse wrote:
>>To All,Or I am an aerobatic pilot who is no threat to any of the 
>>competitors in any category; however, I feel that I might have some 
>>suggestions that would be of benefit.  I am going out on a limb because 
>>of the recent spate of in-fighting within the ranks of the IAC.  I do not 
>>know all of the issues with Mr. Dorsey's tenure as the IAC president, nor 
>>do I feel that it is relevant now due to his departure.  Any parting 
>>shots taken at this point are really non-productive.  I say let us give 
>>Gerry Molidor our support and move the IAC in a positive direction that 
>>is a benefit to all aerobatic pilots. Here are a few suggestions that 
>>might help with some of the issues as I see them. 1.  The small 
>>percentage of competitors versus the overall membership. I suggest that 
>>the IAC sponsor weekend clinics for aerobatics much in the way the EAA 
>>sponsors the Sportair workshops.  I feel that a relaxed and fun 
>>atmosphere of a weekend clinic would probably entice some more of the 
>>membership into competition.  I see this as an educational as well as 
>>flight proficiency clinic.  The people involved in the course could bring 
>>their own airplanes, or rent a flight school provided airplane.  The 
>>clinic would cover the maneuvers, scoring/judging, flying tips, aircraft 
>>performance, etc.  Basically a fun introduction to competitive 
>>aerobatics. 2.  Competition aerobatics is relatively unknown to the 
>>'outside world'. I suggest that whenever there is an aerobatic 
>>competition, the organizers try an involve the local media to get the 
>>word out to the general public.  The media involvement would need to be 
>>carefully crafted in order to put aerobatics in a positive light, not a 
>>bunch of elite, show-offs with too much money and time on their hands.  I 
>>am not saying that the latter is the case, just that the general public 
>>is uninformed about our sport, and we want to portray it as a safe and 
>>exciting sport which has benefits to regular flying; i.e., upset training 
>>and flight proficiency. 3.  Dissemination of information. One of the 
>>biggest issues this year seemed to be the USAF decision concerning the 
>>fielding of an Advanced team at the WAC.  I am friends with one of the 
>>original team members, but I still am not sure what the issues were 
>>concerning the Advanced team (this may be a case of utter confusion on my 
>>part).  Anyway, I suggest that there be a better flow of information to 
>>the IAC membership.  Email would be a good start.  I have contributed to 
>>the USAF for the Unlimited and the Advanced team.  If funding were an 
>>issue, I would have gladly donated an extra $20.00 to the Advanced 
>>team.  My $20.00 would not have meant much; however, if all of the other 
>>IAC membership were to match it, then it would have been something.  I 
>>may not have all of my facts straight, but I hopefully have pointed out 
>>that the communications within the organization could use a little more 
>>improvement. 4.  Fragmentation of the IAC. I have seen the website which 
>>is proposing a new aerobatic organization.  Wasn't this the case when IAC 
>>superceded the ACA (before my time)?  Anyway, I don't feel that creating 
>>a new organization will really address any of the core issues.  I feel it 
>>is changing horses in mid stream.  I realize that there are many 
>>different viewpoints within the IAC.  If there is a particular direction 
>>the IAC should go, then the membership should vote for it and then the 
>>majority would provide the direction.  If there are people who are not in 
>>the majority, then keep up the dialogue and see if there is an equitable 
>>solution to be had.  Constant in-fighting is non-productive, and it just 
>>alienates people.  I feel that we can have internal disagreements, but 
>>when it comes to interfacing with outside organizations, we need to have 
>>a unified position.  Let us not air our dirty laundry to the public. I 
>>know that my viewpoints are probably not worth the electricity used to 
>>send them across the net, but I am willing to help. Thanks for not 
>>hitting the delete key immediately. Pete RousePitts S-1S

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