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Thread: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

Message: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

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From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:41:26 UTC


Message:

  John:

Thanks for the support.
I am trying to figure all this out. It is overwheliming (my first airplane purchase).

Debbie seems like a real bitch, huh?  She wrote me some nasty stuff.....she needs a good bitch-slapping, huh? 

Hope to see you at a contest once I get repaired.

-Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: John Cornwell <jwcornwell at usa.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:42:17 -0400
To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, <william at netpros.net>
Subject: Re: [[Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder]


> Debbie -- read the post thoroughly.  He said he was "signed off" to compete
> WITH A SAFETY PILOT.  There is nothing wrong with competing with zero hours
> with a safety pilot.  It will no doubt be a humbling experience, and that is
> not a bad thing at all for a budding acro pilot.
> 
> As far as solo competition, some are competent to compete with less than 8
> hrs. dual, some need more.  It took you 100 hrs. Pitts time.  Others are
> competent in unlimited with that amount of time.  There is no minimum that is
> applicable to everyone.  
> 
> Finally, if the instructor Bill referred to is Rich Stowell (I don't know Rich
> Stovall), you might check his credentials before labeling him a bonehead.
> 
> "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> You think it's "cool" to be a hard charger?  In this sport you get one chance.
> Just because you got some bonehead instructor to tell YOU to go compete after
> 8 hours does not make it right. You should not go around telling other people
> that it is. This guy Brad is clearly someone that is  just primed and ready to
> go out and kill himself or someone else. It is our responsibility to attempt
> to put him on the right path. He needs instruction and he needs a mechanic.
> 
> Debbie Anderson
> IAC 24085
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Halverson <william at netpros.net>
> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:55:33 -0700
> To: Debbie Anderson <acrolady at usa.com>, brad belke <bradbelke at usa.com>
> Subject: Re: [Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder
> 
> 
> > Please people, check the email headers before you send personal messages 
> > like this .. the whole group saw your exchange ...  Please don't hit 
> > 'reply to all'.
> > 
> > As for the sentiment of the exchange ... knowing neither of you, I hope 
> > for good intentions ...
> > 
> > My own experience is that is years ago, after a 8 hour 'beginning 
> > aerobatic' course taught me by Rich Stovall, he told me I was ready for 
> > Sportsman competition in a Super Decathlon ... with a safety pilot.
> > 
> > But the mechanical issues Brad brought up  ... well ... I can understand 
> > why Debbie got alarmed ... a broken cable will kill anybody fast.
> > 
> > Brad may be a hard charger, cool ... but given the hypersensitive 
> > society we live in right now, any of us that fly, and especially fly 
> > aerobatic, should try to restrain ourselves in public.
> > 
> > It could be that Debbie over-reacted to Brad's enthusiasm ... or that 
> > Brad's enthusiasm ... triggered something personal in Debbies' flying 
> > experience.
> > 
> > No one knows, except now there is an archive of your exchange in the 
> > news group .... which is public record.
> > 
> > Best regards to you both - Fly safe!
> > 
> > Hope to meet you both in person soon at an IAC event!
> > 
> > Bill Halverson
> > 
> > 
> > Debbie Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > > Brad,
> > > 
> > > Don't be stupid or play me for a fool!  I do not appreciate that. If you
> are
> > 
> > actually intending to compete in the near future I just wanted to encourage
> 
> > 
> > you to seek qualified instruction so that you do not become another
> statistic.
> > > 
> > > Debbie
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
> > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:38:34 -0500
> > > To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, "brad belke"
> <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
> > > Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>Debbie:
> > >>
> > >>Sorry if I am "out of my mind".  I understand you must be a seasoned
> competitor.
> > >>I jsut was excited to buy a plane and compete. If I don't belong in this
> group of good pilots, I am sorry and I will not try. I thought the challenge
> would be fun and since seeing it on ESPN many years ago, i have dreamed of
> participating.  
> > >>Sorry, I didn't know Ihad to be better or more experienced to try to
> join.
> > >>
> > >>-Brad
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>
> > >>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:45 -0500
> > >>To: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
> > >>Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Brad,
> > >>>
> > >>>I don't know who you are or where your from but you have got to be out of
> your mind if you only have 4 hours Pitts time and think your going to be in a
> contest anytime soon. I have been flying since 1984 and have over 100 hours
> Pitts time. I have just joined a local IAC chapter and will compete in my
> first contest this coming September. Furthermore if your rudder cables are
> actually frayed that plane should be grounded until a competent "Pitts"
> mechanic can do the necessary repairs.
> > >>>Please seek out some competent instruction and advice from your local IAC
> chapter.
> > >>>
> > >>>Debbie Anderson
> > >>>IAC 24085
> > >>>Pitts S-2B
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
> > >>>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:43:21 -0500
> > >>>To: acro at gf24.de
> > >>>Subject: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I am hoping someone may have an S-2B lower right wing and rudder
> > >>>>cables for sale.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>From what I hear, this is a commonly ground-looped plane and I have
> > >>>>had an incident where the lower right wing has been damaged.  
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Also, how many hours can rudder cables take? I ran my hand down the
> > >>>>cables yesterday and think that I am still bleeding from the barbs!!!
> Seems like they need to be replaced. 
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Also, how can I join the Aerobatic club and EAA? I would like to try
> > >>>>to compete after I get the wing fixed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I only have 4 hours in a Pitts.  Is there any minimum requirement to
> > >>>>be allowed to compete ASIDE from joining the IAC and EAA.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Thanks for any help......
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Brad
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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