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Thread: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

Message: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

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From: "Dr. Guenther Eichhorn" <gei at head-cfa.harvard.edu>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:55:52 UTC


Message:

  
Hi all,

Don't you all see that this is a troll???  Why answer him??

Guenther


------ Original Message ------

In message <20020802173835.63741.qmail at mail.com>, "brad belke" writes:
>John:
>
>Thanks for the support.
>I am trying to figure all this out. It is overwheliming (my first airplane pur
>chase).
>
>Debbie seems like a real bitch, huh?  She wrote me some nasty stuff.....she ne
>eds a good bitch-slapping, huh? 
>
>Hope to see you at a contest once I get repaired.
>
>-Brad
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Cornwell <jwcornwell at usa.net>
>Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:42:17 -0400
>To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, <william at netpros.net>
>Subject: Re: [[Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder]
>
>
>> Debbie -- read the post thoroughly.  He said he was "signed off" to compete
>> WITH A SAFETY PILOT.  There is nothing wrong with competing with zero hours
>> with a safety pilot.  It will no doubt be a humbling experience, and that is
>> not a bad thing at all for a budding acro pilot.
>> 
>> As far as solo competition, some are competent to compete with less than 8
>> hrs. dual, some need more.  It took you 100 hrs. Pitts time.  Others are
>> competent in unlimited with that amount of time.  There is no minimum that i
>s
>> applicable to everyone.  
>> 
>> Finally, if the instructor Bill referred to is Rich Stowell (I don't know Ri
>ch
>> Stovall), you might check his credentials before labeling him a bonehead.
>> 
>> "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com> wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> You think it's "cool" to be a hard charger?  In this sport you get one chanc
>e.
>> Just because you got some bonehead instructor to tell YOU to go compete afte
>r
>> 8 hours does not make it right. You should not go around telling other peopl
>e
>> that it is. This guy Brad is clearly someone that is  just primed and ready 
>to
>> go out and kill himself or someone else. It is our responsibility to attempt
>> to put him on the right path. He needs instruction and he needs a mechanic.
>> 
>> Debbie Anderson
>> IAC 24085
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: William Halverson <william at netpros.net>
>> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:55:33 -0700
>> To: Debbie Anderson <acrolady at usa.com>, brad belke <bradbelke at usa.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder
>> 
>> 
>> > Please people, check the email headers before you send personal messages 
>> > like this .. the whole group saw your exchange ...  Please don't hit 
>> > 'reply to all'.
>> > 
>> > As for the sentiment of the exchange ... knowing neither of you, I hope 
>> > for good intentions ...
>> > 
>> > My own experience is that is years ago, after a 8 hour 'beginning 
>> > aerobatic' course taught me by Rich Stovall, he told me I was ready for 
>> > Sportsman competition in a Super Decathlon ... with a safety pilot.
>> > 
>> > But the mechanical issues Brad brought up  ... well ... I can understand 
>> > why Debbie got alarmed ... a broken cable will kill anybody fast.
>> > 
>> > Brad may be a hard charger, cool ... but given the hypersensitive 
>> > society we live in right now, any of us that fly, and especially fly 
>> > aerobatic, should try to restrain ourselves in public.
>> > 
>> > It could be that Debbie over-reacted to Brad's enthusiasm ... or that 
>> > Brad's enthusiasm ... triggered something personal in Debbies' flying 
>> > experience.
>> > 
>> > No one knows, except now there is an archive of your exchange in the 
>> > news group .... which is public record.
>> > 
>> > Best regards to you both - Fly safe!
>> > 
>> > Hope to meet you both in person soon at an IAC event!
>> > 
>> > Bill Halverson
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Debbie Anderson wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Brad,
>> > > 
>> > > Don't be stupid or play me for a fool!  I do not appreciate that. If you
>> are
>> > 
>> > actually intending to compete in the near future I just wanted to encourag
>e
>> 
>> > 
>> > you to seek qualified instruction so that you do not become another
>> statistic.
>> > > 
>> > > Debbie
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
>> > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:38:34 -0500
>> > > To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, "brad belke"
>> <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
>> > > Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >>Debbie:
>> > >>
>> > >>Sorry if I am "out of my mind".  I understand you must be a seasoned
>> competitor.
>> > >>I jsut was excited to buy a plane and compete. If I don't belong in this
>> group of good pilots, I am sorry and I will not try. I thought the challenge
>> would be fun and since seeing it on ESPN many years ago, i have dreamed of
>> participating.  
>> > >>Sorry, I didn't know Ihad to be better or more experienced to try to
>> join.
>> > >>
>> > >>-Brad
>> > >>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>From: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>
>> > >>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:45 -0500
>> > >>To: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
>> > >>Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>Brad,
>> > >>>
>> > >>>I don't know who you are or where your from but you have got to be out 
>of
>> your mind if you only have 4 hours Pitts time and think your going to be in 
>a
>> contest anytime soon. I have been flying since 1984 and have over 100 hours
>> Pitts time. I have just joined a local IAC chapter and will compete in my
>> first contest this coming September. Furthermore if your rudder cables are
>> actually frayed that plane should be grounded until a competent "Pitts"
>> mechanic can do the necessary repairs.
>> > >>>Please seek out some competent instruction and advice from your local I
>AC
>> chapter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Debbie Anderson
>> > >>>IAC 24085
>> > >>>Pitts S-2B
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
>> > >>>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:43:21 -0500
>> > >>>To: acro at gf24.de
>> > >>>Subject: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>I am hoping someone may have an S-2B lower right wing and rudder
>> > >>>>cables for sale.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>From what I hear, this is a commonly ground-looped plane and I have
>> > >>>>had an incident where the lower right wing has been damaged.  
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Also, how many hours can rudder cables take? I ran my hand down the
>> > >>>>cables yesterday and think that I am still bleeding from the barbs!!!
>> Seems like they need to be replaced. 
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Also, how can I join the Aerobatic club and EAA? I would like to try
>> > >>>>to compete after I get the wing fixed.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>I only have 4 hours in a Pitts.  Is there any minimum requirement to
>> > >>>>be allowed to compete ASIDE from joining the IAC and EAA.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Thanks for any help......
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Brad
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
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