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Thread: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

Message: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder

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From: Alex Belov <belov at iac52.com>

Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 20:27:12 UTC


Message:

  Folks,
  Guenther is correct.  Both "brad" and "debbie" are the same person
emailing from the same account faking return addresses and has been tracked.
We're calling a local psychiatrist.

Alex...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Guenther Eichhorn" <gei at head-cfa.harvard.edu>
To: <acro at gf24.de>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:52 PM
Subject: [Acro] Re: Wing and Rudder


>
> Hi all,
>
> Don't you all see that this is a troll???  Why answer him??
>
> Guenther
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> In message <20020802173835.63741.qmail at mail.com>, "brad belke" writes:
> >John:
> >
> >Thanks for the support.
> >I am trying to figure all this out. It is overwheliming (my first
airplane pur
> >chase).
> >
> >Debbie seems like a real bitch, huh?  She wrote me some nasty
stuff.....she ne
> >eds a good bitch-slapping, huh?
> >
> >Hope to see you at a contest once I get repaired.
> >
> >-Brad
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John Cornwell <jwcornwell at usa.net>
> >Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:42:17 -0400
> >To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, <william at netpros.net>
> >Subject: Re: [[Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder]
> >
> >
> >> Debbie -- read the post thoroughly.  He said he was "signed off" to
compete
> >> WITH A SAFETY PILOT.  There is nothing wrong with competing with zero
hours
> >> with a safety pilot.  It will no doubt be a humbling experience, and
that is
> >> not a bad thing at all for a budding acro pilot.
> >>
> >> As far as solo competition, some are competent to compete with less
than 8
> >> hrs. dual, some need more.  It took you 100 hrs. Pitts time.  Others
are
> >> competent in unlimited with that amount of time.  There is no minimum
that i
> >s
> >> applicable to everyone.
> >>
> >> Finally, if the instructor Bill referred to is Rich Stowell (I don't
know Ri
> >ch
> >> Stovall), you might check his credentials before labeling him a
bonehead.
> >>
> >> "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com> wrote:
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> You think it's "cool" to be a hard charger?  In this sport you get one
chanc
> >e.
> >> Just because you got some bonehead instructor to tell YOU to go compete
afte
> >r
> >> 8 hours does not make it right. You should not go around telling other
peopl
> >e
> >> that it is. This guy Brad is clearly someone that is  just primed and
ready
> >to
> >> go out and kill himself or someone else. It is our responsibility to
attempt
> >> to put him on the right path. He needs instruction and he needs a
mechanic.
> >>
> >> Debbie Anderson
> >> IAC 24085
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: William Halverson <william at netpros.net>
> >> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:55:33 -0700
> >> To: Debbie Anderson <acrolady at usa.com>, brad belke <bradbelke at usa.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Acro] Re: Wing and  Rudder
> >>
> >>
> >> > Please people, check the email headers before you send personal
messages
> >> > like this .. the whole group saw your exchange ...  Please don't hit
> >> > 'reply to all'.
> >> >
> >> > As for the sentiment of the exchange ... knowing neither of you, I
hope
> >> > for good intentions ...
> >> >
> >> > My own experience is that is years ago, after a 8 hour 'beginning
> >> > aerobatic' course taught me by Rich Stovall, he told me I was ready
for
> >> > Sportsman competition in a Super Decathlon ... with a safety pilot.
> >> >
> >> > But the mechanical issues Brad brought up  ... well ... I can
understand
> >> > why Debbie got alarmed ... a broken cable will kill anybody fast.
> >> >
> >> > Brad may be a hard charger, cool ... but given the hypersensitive
> >> > society we live in right now, any of us that fly, and especially fly
> >> > aerobatic, should try to restrain ourselves in public.
> >> >
> >> > It could be that Debbie over-reacted to Brad's enthusiasm ... or that
> >> > Brad's enthusiasm ... triggered something personal in Debbies' flying
> >> > experience.
> >> >
> >> > No one knows, except now there is an archive of your exchange in the
> >> > news group .... which is public record.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards to you both - Fly safe!
> >> >
> >> > Hope to meet you both in person soon at an IAC event!
> >> >
> >> > Bill Halverson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Debbie Anderson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Brad,
> >> > >
> >> > > Don't be stupid or play me for a fool!  I do not appreciate that.
If you
> >> are
> >> >
> >> > actually intending to compete in the near future I just wanted to
encourag
> >e
> >>
> >> >
> >> > you to seek qualified instruction so that you do not become another
> >> statistic.
> >> > >
> >> > > Debbie
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
> >> > > Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:38:34 -0500
> >> > > To: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>, "brad belke"
> >> <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>Debbie:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Sorry if I am "out of my mind".  I understand you must be a
seasoned
> >> competitor.
> >> > >>I jsut was excited to buy a plane and compete. If I don't belong in
this
> >> group of good pilots, I am sorry and I will not try. I thought the
challenge
> >> would be fun and since seeing it on ESPN many years ago, i have dreamed
of
> >> participating.
> >> > >>Sorry, I didn't know Ihad to be better or more experienced to try
to
> >> join.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>-Brad
> >> > >>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>From: "Debbie Anderson" <acrolady at usa.com>
> >> > >>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:45 -0500
> >> > >>To: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>, acro at gf24.de
> >> > >>Subject: Re: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>Brad,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>I don't know who you are or where your from but you have got to be
out
> >of
> >> your mind if you only have 4 hours Pitts time and think your going to
be in
> >a
> >> contest anytime soon. I have been flying since 1984 and have over 100
hours
> >> Pitts time. I have just joined a local IAC chapter and will compete in
my
> >> first contest this coming September. Furthermore if your rudder cables
are
> >> actually frayed that plane should be grounded until a competent "Pitts"
> >> mechanic can do the necessary repairs.
> >> > >>>Please seek out some competent instruction and advice from your
local I
> >AC
> >> chapter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Debbie Anderson
> >> > >>>IAC 24085
> >> > >>>Pitts S-2B
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>From: "brad belke" <bradbelke at usa.com>
> >> > >>>Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:43:21 -0500
> >> > >>>To: acro at gf24.de
> >> > >>>Subject: [Acro] Wing and  Rudder
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>>I am hoping someone may have an S-2B lower right wing and rudder
> >> > >>>>cables for sale.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>From what I hear, this is a commonly ground-looped plane and I
have
> >> > >>>>had an incident where the lower right wing has been damaged.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Also, how many hours can rudder cables take? I ran my hand down
the
> >> > >>>>cables yesterday and think that I am still bleeding from the
barbs!!!
> >> Seems like they need to be replaced.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Also, how can I join the Aerobatic club and EAA? I would like to
try
> >> > >>>>to compete after I get the wing fixed.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>I only have 4 hours in a Pitts.  Is there any minimum requirement
to
> >> > >>>>be allowed to compete ASIDE from joining the IAC and EAA.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Thanks for any help......
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>Brad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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