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Message: [Acro] RE: CAP 10B Performance and qualities compared to a Pitts
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From: John Cornwell <jwcornwell at usa.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:57:37 UTC
Ditto Randy. Boy have you stirred memories. If there were ever a good compromise between comfort, X-country CAPability and aerobatics, it is the CAP 10B. I have a bunch of hours with Danny, Montaine and Claude when the French Connection was based at POU, including some great contests at Red Lion, NJ and the Silver Ranch in Jaffrey NH, where the drinking started with the protest period. It is a delight to fly -- side-by side seating, terrific visibility and about as capable as, but very different than, an S-2A. In experienced hands, and knowing the right attitude to avoid the very common "positive up" downgrade, it can easily win in intermediate. Advanced would be a challenge, but the CAP will do a 3/4 vertical roll and fly off (albeit with very short lines) which is really all you need. If you flew to music, the Pitts would fly to Led Zepplin and the CAP would fly to Mozart. If you are looking into buying one, find an experienced mechanic -- they had some problems with the forward spar (the main landing gear is bolted to the spar) that caused the issuance of an AD. If the AD is complied with and the g-limits are strictly obeyed (+6 -4.5), the CAP is completely safe and reliable. However, they won't take the abuse that a Pitts will. The CAP flies much better when it's not being abused anyway. "Randy Owens" <zippyx at sprynet.com> wrote: I just happen to have a CAP 10B.... The CAP 10B is 180 HP, 1150 lbs, all wood & fabric, side by side, 20 Gallons Acro + 20 Cross Country. The cross county cruise is about 135 knots at 2500 RPM / 10.5 GPH. Fire walled down low (2500 feet), I can get 145 to 150 knots indicated in level flight. Red line is 180 knots / 211 MPH. I've got about 65 hours in the CAP and about 5 in a Pitts S2B. I bought the CAP over the Pitts because it better fit my mission statement (cross country & aerobatics). For cross country, I can stand to be in it for a couple of hours at a time, I fit in it better (it's actually reasonably comfortable), I can take someone with me (my girl likes the side-by-side better than tandem), and I can fly for about 3 1/2 hours w/reserve. You can actually see over the cowl too... As for aerobatics, I'm at the Sportsman level, so this plane is a better acro flier than I am (it's still training me). I think it could easily handle intermediate and then some (me, too, one day). From my experiences in the S2B, I can definitely say that 180 HP can't match 260 HP. The zoom factor in the Pitts is higher for sure. I've never set foot in an S1-S, but I imagine it's still got more zoom. I love the CAP--it's a sweet little plane. If I had a Pitts, I believe I'd probably say the same thing. The real big point for me was the added utility the CAP offers. I came from training in Decathlons, and it seems to me that the CAP 10B may be somewhere smack dab between what the Decathlon can do and what the Pitts S2B can do. I'm not sure how helpful this is for the info. you're looking for. Feel free to write me back with questions if I can be of service. -Randy -----Original Message----- From: Paul B. Stambaugh [mailto:pstambau at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:24 AM To: Dr. Guenther Eichhorn Subject: [Acro] CAP 10B Performance and qualities compared to a Pitts What are the qualities and performances of a Cap 10B? Are they a nice aerobatic aircraft? Will I be bored flying one after comming out of a Pitts? Any and all input appreaciated. P ===== Paul Stambaugh - IAC Chapter 88 Pitts S1-S N34RM "Psycho Therapy" SkyTours Aerobatics - The Ultimate Aerobatic Experience www.skytoursaerobatics.8m.com Ann Arbor, MI & Toledo, OH Phone: Days, Office (810)-986-0389, Evenings (419) 269-0626 Cell: 248-705-8495 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com