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Thread: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headqua ...

Message: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters

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From: William Halverson <william at>

Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:04:55 UTC


N6108P's email has, I think, opened a much bigger can of worms that does
not need to be opened by this photo ID issue.  Nobody is talking about revoking
our flying privilege [I suppose that choice of noun will start another thread,
too] - all that is under discussion is to find a way so bad guys have a harder
time pretending they are licensed pilots.<br>
Everybody I know that flies drives their car to get to the airport from which
they fly.  And when they get to the place they are flying to [a lot of times
to have lunch or buy gas] they usually have to present a photo ID when they
pay the bills with their credit cards.  In fact, many credit cards have pictures
on them now anyway.  It's a good way to make sure the bad guys don't ruin
your credit rating.<br>
So carrying your state issued driver's license to identify you to ... the
state trooper at the ramp [is that happening in MICHIGAN now?] ... well that
sounds like a good way to meet the state's paranoia without crating another
state civil service bureaucracy. Then again, it is an election year and so
I can imagine how great the idea of creating another state civil service
bureaucracy must sound to the Democratic politicians that run MICHIGAN ...
[Ok, here comes another thread ...]<br>
And for all you 'under driving aged' pilots - states can issue you 'photo-ID
cards' that are not DLs.  That's what happened to my mother after she lost
her DL to macular degeneration.<br>
But the state of MICHIGAN does not have the right to force its pilots to
carry a special purpose pilots' ID. Flying is not regulated by each state
separately.  The FAA does it.  Period.<br>
So I hope AOPA and EAA and IAC and _all of us_ will jump on this and get
the attorneys working on this: MICHIGAN is unconstitutionally usurping the
federal regulation of flying - and must be stopped on that ground alone.
Bill [from the wacko people's republic of California] Halverson<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:N6108P at">N6108P at</a> wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Please read the following quotes. Then Think about what was just said in the following text, "The need to protect the greater good is greater than the need to protect the individual and his or her freedoms. At least it seem to be heading that way. ". Be very careful what you wish for. A lot of people are listening.<br><br>"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." (Nikita Khrushchev , February 25, 1956 20th Congress of the Communist Party)<br><br>"All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all." (Vladimir Lenin, as quoted in "Not by Politics Alone.)<br><br>We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." (Hillary Clinton, 1993)<br><br>"We can't be so fixated on our desire 
to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." (President Bill Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A)<br><br>"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." (Ayn<br>Rand)<br><br>When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? (Henry David Thoreau)<br><br><br>In a message dated 10/26/2002 4:15:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Virginia M. Jacobson" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:virginia at"><virginia at></a> writes:<br><br></pre>
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    <pre wrap="">How strange............<br><br>The state of Michigan now requires any pilot applicant or any<br>applicant for a new rating to be fingerprinted and registered with the<br>state. Now with the photo ID requirement I wonder if the state will<br>require a document like Dick had to have?  With today's technology it<br>will probably be the size of your drivers license but have far more<br>than just your fingerprints encoded in it. I guess we need to face the<br>fact that times are changing and our freedoms are being stressed. The<br>need to protect the greater good is greater than the need to protect<br>the individual and his or her freedoms. At least it seem to be heading<br>that way.<br><br>It appears the days of honesty, integrity and where ones word meant<br>something are all but gone. No one can be trusted therefore everyone<br>must be traceable. The irony as I see it is those who are truly evil<br>will always find a way around the system. The more the sy
stem tries to<br>protect its self the more it restricts those it tries to protect.<br>There seems to be a Catch 22 no matter which way you go.  The only<br>true way to stop what is happening is to change the mind set that<br>causes it in the first place. Until someone can find a way to truly do<br>so the need for Big brother will only grow.<br><br>If anyone out there can suggest a better idea I'm sure there are many<br>that would be willing to listen. No one likes the idea of their<br>personal freedoms and rights being taken away. I for one dislike the<br>idea of not knowing that if I walk out my door if I will be coming<br>home at night or if I will ever see the ones I love again because a<br>snipers bullet or a suicide bomber may take them from me. The times we<br>face are not pleasant but we could have to face every day like the<br>Israeli's. There isn't a single Israeli that knows when they walk out<br>their door if they will be coming home at night.<br><br>Personall
y, Dick Rihn's comments leave me with some hope. Quote "The<br>more things change the more they remain the same" Dick lived through a<br>time in history where no one could be trusted. Time went on and that<br>changed maybe it will again, but only if we work for it instead of<br>complaining about it. It seems to me that to many of us keep<br>forgetting that WE ARE AT WAR!  The battle field and the tactics have<br>changed but we are at war non the less.<br><br>My sermon for the day.<br><br>Virginia Jacobson<br><br></pre>
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