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Message: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters

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From: "Virginia M. Jacobson" <virginia at>

Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:44:02 UTC


I think John Cornwell is correct it was Benjamin Franklin I do

However, think about it from this point of view, some of the
sacrifices we "may" be asked to make now is like an investment. When
you make an investment you give up some money short term with the
intention of earning a great deal more in the future. If you invest
correctly you do. Just another point of view.

Max Braude is also correct I started this thread speaking about
America but this also applies to all of the free thinking,
entrepreneurial world.

The gentleman N6108P stated "And act we should. But let's start with
those who knowingly break the law, not the law abiding." I also
profoundly agree with this but I do have one question. What should we
do in the mean time to protect ourselves and our freedom while we hunt
down those who break the law? I believe that we should go on and live
our lives exercising our rights but with greater caution. The
sacrifices I speak of are the added cautionary steps we may be asked
to take.

Virginia Jacobson

----- Original Message -----
From: Bear
To: N6108P at ; acro at
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters

A famous man ( guess) once said something like- " Those willing to
give up a small amount of freedom in the interest of gaining a small
amount of security will soon have none of either". So how much freedom
do y'all wanna give up, and for what? I might be looking at this
shallowly- but- I don't wanna give anything unless I get some kind of
return..... not a loss.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: N6108P at
  To: acro at
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:09 AM
  Subject: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters

  Please read the following quotes. Then Think about what was just
said in the following text, "The need to protect the greater good is
greater than the need to protect the individual and his or her
freedoms. At least it seem to be heading that way. ". Be very careful
what you wish for. A lot of people are listening.

  "Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively,
once and for all." (Nikita Khrushchev , February 25, 1956 20th
Congress of the Communist Party)

  "All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against
the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done
with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the
glorification of one personality. This is not good at all." (Vladimir
Lenin, as quoted in "Not by Politics Alone.)

  We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about
what is best for society." (Hillary Clinton, 1993)

  "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of
ordinary Americans ..." (President Bill Clinton, USA Today, March 11,
1993, Page 2A)

  "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny
individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." (Ayn

  When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance
compared with one man? (Henry David Thoreau)

  In a message dated 10/26/2002 4:15:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
"Virginia M. Jacobson" <virginia at> writes:

  >How strange............
  >The state of Michigan now requires any pilot applicant or any
  >applicant for a new rating to be fingerprinted and registered with
  >state. Now with the photo ID requirement I wonder if the state will
  >require a document like Dick had to have? With today's technology
  >will probably be the size of your drivers license but have far more
  >than just your fingerprints encoded in it. I guess we need to face
  >fact that times are changing and our freedoms are being stressed.
  >need to protect the greater good is greater than the need to
  >the individual and his or her freedoms. At least it seem to be
  >that way.
  >It appears the days of honesty, integrity and where ones word meant
  >something are all but gone. No one can be trusted therefore
  >must be traceable. The irony as I see it is those who are truly
  >will always find a way around the system. The more the system tries
  >protect its self the more it restricts those it tries to protect.
  >There seems to be a Catch 22 no matter which way you go. The only
  >true way to stop what is happening is to change the mind set that
  >causes it in the first place. Until someone can find a way to truly
  >so the need for Big brother will only grow.
  >If anyone out there can suggest a better idea I'm sure there are
  >that would be willing to listen. No one likes the idea of their
  >personal freedoms and rights being taken away. I for one dislike
  >idea of not knowing that if I walk out my door if I will be coming
  >home at night or if I will ever see the ones I love again because a
  >snipers bullet or a suicide bomber may take them from me. The times
  >face are not pleasant but we could have to face every day like the
  >Israeli's. There isn't a single Israeli that knows when they walk
  >their door if they will be coming home at night.
  >Personally, Dick Rihn's comments leave me with some hope. Quote
  >more things change the more they remain the same" Dick lived
through a
  >time in history where no one could be trusted. Time went on and
  >changed maybe it will again, but only if we work for it instead of
  >complaining about it. It seems to me that to many of us keep
  >forgetting that WE ARE AT WAR! The battle field and the tactics
  >changed but we are at war non the less.
  >My sermon for the day.
  >Virginia Jacobson

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