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From: Allan Krosner <t28driver at nccn.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 02:24:17 UTC
Virginia, Tell me how having a picture ID will protect anyone? Allan Krosner "Virginia M. Jacobson" wrote: > I think John Cornwell is correct it was Benjamin Franklin I do > believe. However, think about it from this point of view, some of the > sacrifices we "may" be asked to make now is like an investment. When > you make an investment you give up some money short term with the > intention of earning a great deal more in the future. If you invest > correctly you do. Just another point of view. Max Braude is also > correct I started this thread speaking about America but this also > applies to all of the free thinking, entrepreneurial world. The > gentleman N6108P stated "And act we should. But let's start with those > who knowingly break the law, not the law abiding." I also profoundly > agree with this but I do have one question. What should we do in the > mean time to protect ourselves and our freedom while we hunt down > those who break the law? I believe that we should go on and live our > lives exercising our rights but with greater caution. The sacrifices I > speak of are the added cautionary steps we may be asked to > take. Virginia Jacobson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bear > To: N6108P at aol.com ; acro at gf24.deSent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:08 > PMSubject: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters > A famous man ( guess) once said something like- " Those willing to > give up a small amount of freedom in the interest of gaining a small > amount of security will soon have none of either". So how much freedom > do y'all wanna give up, and for what? I might be looking at this > shallowly- but- I don't wanna give anything unless I get some kind of > return..... not a loss. D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: N6108P at aol.com > To: acro at gf24.de > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:09 AM > Subject: [Acro] RE: Fw: Important News from IAC Headquarters > Please read the following quotes. Then Think about what was > just said in the following text, "The need to protect the > greater good is greater than the need to protect the > individual and his or her freedoms. At least it seem to be > heading that way. ". Be very careful what you wish for. A > lot of people are listening. > > "Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual > decisively, once and for all." (Nikita Khrushchev , February > 25, 1956 20th Congress of the Communist Party) > > "All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, > against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we > were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it > comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This > is not good at all." (Vladimir Lenin, as quoted in "Not by > Politics Alone.) > > We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking > about what is best for society." (Hillary Clinton, 1993) > > "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights > of ordinary Americans ..." (President Bill Clinton, USA > Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A) > > "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who > deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of > minorities." (Ayn > Rand) > > When will the world learn that a million men are of no > importance compared with one man? (Henry David Thoreau) > > > In a message dated 10/26/2002 4:15:12 PM Eastern Standard > Time, "Virginia M. Jacobson" <virginia at odysseypub.com> > writes: > > >How strange............ > > > >The state of Michigan now requires any pilot applicant or > any > >applicant for a new rating to be fingerprinted and > registered with the > >state. Now with the photo ID requirement I wonder if the > state will > >require a document like Dick had to have? With today's > technology it > >will probably be the size of your drivers license but have > far more > >than just your fingerprints encoded in it. I guess we need > to face the > >fact that times are changing and our freedoms are being > stressed. The > >need to protect the greater good is greater than the need > to protect > >the individual and his or her freedoms. At least it seem to > be heading > >that way. > > > >It appears the days of honesty, integrity and where ones > word meant > >something are all but gone. No one can be trusted therefore > everyone > >must be traceable. The irony as I see it is those who are > truly evil > >will always find a way around the system. The more the > system tries to > >protect its self the more it restricts those it tries to > protect. > >There seems to be a Catch 22 no matter which way you go. > The only > >true way to stop what is happening is to change the mind > set that > >causes it in the first place. Until someone can find a way > to truly do > >so the need for Big brother will only grow. > > > >If anyone out there can suggest a better idea I'm sure > there are many > >that would be willing to listen. No one likes the idea of > their > >personal freedoms and rights being taken away. I for one > dislike the > >idea of not knowing that if I walk out my door if I will be > coming > >home at night or if I will ever see the ones I love again > because a > >snipers bullet or a suicide bomber may take them from me. > The times we > >face are not pleasant but we could have to face every day > like the > >Israeli's. There isn't a single Israeli that knows when > they walk out > >their door if they will be coming home at night. > > > >Personally, Dick Rihn's comments leave me with some hope. > Quote "The > >more things change the more they remain the same" Dick > lived through a > >time in history where no one could be trusted. Time went on > and that > >changed maybe it will again, but only if we work for it > instead of > >complaining about it. It seems to me that to many of us > keep > >forgetting that WE ARE AT WAR! The battle field and the > tactics have > >changed but we are at war non the less. > > > >My sermon for the day. > > > >Virginia Jacobson > > > Attachement 1: part2.html