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Thread: Pitts Landings - "Slipping" vs. "Carrier" app ...
Message: Re: Pitts Landings - "Slipping" vs. "Carrier" approach
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From: "Marc S. Ludtke" <ludtke at whidbey.com>
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 02:33:30 UTC
So far I agree with the majority; being proficient in "carrier style" 180 degree turn approaches, rectangular, and straight-in approaches will allow much more flexibility in the traffic pattern. If you are new to landing the Pitts, I recommend a combination: a curving approach (for visibility) with enough of a straight segment on final to get your line-up straight, your crosswind bracketed, and your will wrote before impact. A severe slip can confound the straightening-out bit, and a tight turn close-in can cause problems if you have a little over-shoot in the line-up (inside rudder, etc.). No matter what though, keep it high (always within gliding distance) and make your final approach with little or no power. This will help preserve what little visibility you've got. Coming in with power requires a flatter approach to prevent overshooting, and the nose is too high to see. A slip at that point (low, slow, and "cockeyed") with power on is really scary! Especially if the fan quits. A note on slips: Using slips for adjustments in line-up and crosswind correction are essential, but beware: A steep bank slip, while increasing descent, actually can result in less induced drag. The wing will "slice" sideways at a lower absolute angle of attack (rather then higher) and the airplane will pick up speed. If you then use up elevator to slow down it may feel OK while in the slip, but when you straighten the airplane out the angle of attack will return to its former (higher) state. If your airspeed is low, this can bite. Anybody concur??? Marc Ludtke ---------- > From: JOHNNYBLUM at aol.com > To: iac <iac at harten.cbu.edu> > Subject: Pitts Landings - "Slipping" vs. "Carrier" approach > Date: Friday, January 31, 1997 7:20 AM > recent thread "re: Rudder ???" discussed briefly the question of > whether using a forward-slip on landing approach is safe. There hasn't been > a thread devoted to the subject, so I'm attempting to start one. > > Some Pitts pilots fly a rectangular pattern and use a forward-slip on final, > while others prefer to fly a "U" shaped course from downwind to final (an > aircraft carrier style approach). Most pilots I've met have insisted that > one way vs. the other is better and few have expressed a desire to be > proficient at both. Quite likely this bias was inherited from whoever first > taught them to fly a Pitts. I was taught the slipping technique and am still > most comfortable in using it. From my viewpoint the benefits of the > Rectangular Pattern/Slipping Final technique are: > > - Increased chances of "fitting" in a busy traffic pattern > - You experience the "Pitts blind spot" for a shorter period of time > - You have a better view of aircraft on the ground (holding short of the > runway) > - Flying a straight final gives a better ability to gage crosswinds > > I find the main disadvantage is that flying in an uncoordinated slip feels > uncomfortable and is perhaps unnerving to passengers (as if the rest of the > flight wasn't already!) > > I'm know there's another side to this and I'm probably in the minority. > > So how do you like to land your Pitts? > > > John Blum > Boulder, CO > Pitts S-2B N5337V > > > > > > >