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ACRO E-mail Archive Thread: [IAC] Accidents


Thread: [IAC] Accidents

Message: Re: [IAC] Accidents

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From: MDSkaggs at

Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:37:37 UTC


  I just finished reading Dr. Andrew Pramer's letter to the editor in the July 
issue of Sport Aerobatics. I have to say that I respectfully disagree with 
his views on a safe altitude for aerobatic practice. 

He maintains that a pilot practicing new maneuvers needs to be at 6,500 ft or 
higher. I maintain that, if you need 6,500 feet to recover a botched maneuver 
in an aerobatic aircraft, then you need more training or perhaps you should 
not be flying aerobatics at all. He says that those of us who say 3000' is 
high enough have "lost touch with reality." The reality is that most 
aerobatic airplanes, especially a pitts, will recover from any spin 
relatively quickly.IF YOU HAVE THE PROPER TRAINING, you should be able to 
recover from any botched maneuver if you are the "standard altitudes." (If 
you are doing multiple turn spins on purpose then I believe you do need to be 
that high)

The key is training, not flying at the flight levels. There are so many good 
schools and qualified instructors out there. It should be the IAC's policy 
that all new pilots complete an approved spin course from a place like H&R or 
Fly Safe. They take you up, make you close your eyes, and put it into some 
wild spin and you open your eyes and recover. I did my training at Pompano 
and not only are you able to recognize a spin and recover quickly, but it 
really helps keep you from spinning in the first place.

We also need to realize that aerobatics is not for everyone. We have all seen 
the types that 'just don't get it.' I can't dance to save my life and I don't 
try, some people can't fly aerobatics. Perhaps the little pledge cards should 
also include a pledge to tell the people that 'don't get it' to find a new 

I am not trying to belittle any certain accident, I just think that flying 
over 6,500 ft is treating a disease, not finding a cure.

Mike Skaggs


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