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ACRO E-mail Archive Thread: FOLLOW THE RULES!- You Flatliners


Thread: FOLLOW THE RULES!- You Flatliners

Message: FOLLOW THE RULES!- You Flatliners

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From: "Kurt O. Haukohl" <TwoWing6 at>

Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:07:40 UTC


  This weekend at the ONE DESIGN contest in Edna, TX  - I demonstrated the
"Red Book" definition of a climbing 45.  <Don't try this at home alone kids.>

Probably 50 people witnessed me fly across the entire (unmarked) box in
"Level Flight" with my nose holding a 45 degree, nose up attitude.  Now if I
snap, (or roll) in the middle, could this be the dreaded "Red Book" climbing
(45), and is this a perfect "10.0" by definition?  HELP.  The RED BOOK says
yes, it is a "10.0"!  My gut tells me this should be a "0" ZERO!  How should
a trained judge score this?


Visualize the Goldfish/Spider flown starting from a point immediately after
the snap.  If I never gain one more foot of altitude after, but hold my nose
at 45 degrees nose up, every judge should give me a 10!  *Place your bets
here Guido.* 

Should we go out and start practicing figures like this or would you prefer
to watch me gain the same amount of altitude after the snap?  How could you
tell when I was done with my line after the snap?  What about the start of
my loop?  How do we define establishing a 45 up line in the first place?  


In Unlimited, we have figures #1, #4, and #6 to get ironed out too!  Should
we re-examine those judges mentioning "shallow after" when in reality we are
in fact Seriously STEEP after.  Should we be practicing to make flat lines
-NON CLIMBING- 45 degree lines?  

Silly rules could be fixed by the Board TODAY!   Should Pilots, Judges, and
Criticizers follow or ignore what they read?  We are not just talking "gray
area" here, this is really nebulous situation.  
Would the Board or Rules Committee please draw us a pictograph of exactly
how these figures should look so that pilots could practice them?  Will this
simplified version have just vertical(s) and flat line(s)?  How should a
judge (or anyone) identify a proper 45?

Seriously seeking clarification,



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