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Thread: [IAC-L:446] Kurt's Eviction/ Cyber Execution
Message: [IAC-L:446] Kurt's Eviction/ Cyber Execution
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From: vulcan at interserv.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:40:40 UTC
<---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 00:23:08 -0500 (CDT) To: vulcan at interserv.com From: stan at airmail.net (Stan Rooker) Subject: Kurt's Eviction/ Cyber Execution Bert. Here's my thoughts regarding Kurt's cyber ambush , as expressed to Dr. Rihn - and his politically correct(?) reply. Makes for some interesting reading....... Stan >From: stan at airmail.net (Stan Rooker) >>Subject: Kurt's Eviction/ Cyber Execution >>Cc: TwoWing6 at ix.netcom.com(Kurt O. Haukohl), MSkaggs705 at aol.com(Mike Skaggs), antin at sound.net( H. Brad Antin), MPFEIFL at aol.com(Mark Pfeifler), cirrus at fullnet.net(Ray Gill), madmax at ix.netcom.com(Max Moore), reniska at austin.asc.slb.com( Kim Reniska), bfielder at ykc.com(Bobby Fielder), bbrock at flash.net(Billy Brock), 10334.1655 at compuserve.com( Gary Swanson), bubba909 at aol.com(Preston Staley), princess at brigadoon.com(Allyson Parker Lauck), s1ttboy at brigadoon.com(Terry Lauck), bulletedge at aol.com(Very Nasty Man), DAOtero at aol.com(David Otero ), marc.r.connolly at conoco.dupont.com(Marc Connolly), PittsAce at earthlink.com(Rocket Taber), carterx3 at flash.net(Tim Carter), DZM at ix.netcom.com(David Mafrige), AcroHead at nol.com(Leslie Eversole), brichard at pdq.net(Beth Richards), brichard at MageNet.com(Beth Richards), 74557.215 at compuserve.com(Dave Reinhardt), LynnHeff at flash.net(Lynn Heffley), Pitts1s at ix.netcom.com(Andy Miller), PopIII at aol.com(Rick Thomson), AcroDrew at nol.com(Drew Lungren), dierks at austin.ibm.com(Herman Dierks), scipio2 at aol.com(Mike Rau), CStarke at iadfw.net(Chester Starke), collie5 at ibm.net( John Collier), Huricane at interserv.com(Debby Rihn-Harvey), n606su at aol.com(Ray LeBlanc), s1sparky at sprynet.com(Stu Baldwin), aztec1 at ix.netcom.com(Jeff Terrell), gus1212 at aol.com(Mad Max Moore), joe.macguire at westgroup1.com(Joe MacGuire), autotech at flash.net(Don Peterson), fultonk at aol.com(Kirk Fulton), bjboyle at central.sun.com(BJ Boyle), bwana at mred.bgm.link.com(Bob Buckley), STAN at airmail.net(Stan Rooker), medshop at texoma.com(Bob Shelton), aresti at flash.net(G. Frick), cirrus at mail.fullnet.net(Ray Gill), kekirk at newman.concentric.net(Klayton Kirkland), jsmolen at bcm.tmc.edu( Jim Smolen), JEEEEP at msn.com(David Fratella), avtray at airmail.net(Ray Mort) >>Bcc: >>X-Attachments: >> >>Dear Dick, >> >>Let me begin by saying that I have met, talked with, read postings to the IAC exploder submitted by, and watched fly, Kurt Haukohl. He has been friendly, made constructive suggestions and offered encouragement while other "hot" competition pilots have behaved as if I were the proverbial, red-headed step child. >>To the purpose of this E-mail. I am appalled that Kurt Haukohl has been summarily evicted from the IAC exploder. Certainly, at times, his demeanor or net etiquette has not been perfect, but being 'booted' from the list is not in the spirit of a free and open exchange of ideas. In particular, a subliminal eviction executed by one person (if that was indeed solely Larry Walls' decision and action) , without benefit of any public proceeding, suggests the organization as a whole, is lacking forthrightness and integrity. Or, was Kurt evicted because, at times, he had challenged the "establishment"? >>I would strongly suggest that two actions occur. One, that if the IAC is going to lend their name to this list and wishes to retain some amount of credibility that prior to removing someone from the list, some form of 'public' proceeding occur. Two, that Kurt Haukohl be reinstated to the IAC exploder list. >> >>Sincerely, >>Stan Rooker >>EAA 57958 >>IAC 1860 >>Arlington, TX >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Return-Path: <RIHNAIRCO at aol.com> Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com from [198.81.11.94] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.181) with esmtp for <stan at airmail.net> id <m0wnrxx-000DcQB at mail.airmail.net>; Mon, 14 Jul 97 15:43:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root at localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA05897 for stan at airmail.net; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: RIHNAIRCO at aol.com Message-ID: <970714164111_1380306201 at emout03.mail.aol.com> To: stan at airmail.net Subject: Re: Kurt's Eviction/ Cyber Execution I have just arrived home from AWAC and read your concern for Kurt's status. The IAC does not control the exploder list. An earlier suggestion on my part that this be moved under the IAC/EAA banner to provide better protection from spam led to an outcry that this was a disguised attempt at IAC censorship. I have therefore kept hands off. The exploder will be free of IAC leadership control as far as I am concerned. It has its own life. There is a place for a free-wheeling forum apart from "official" IAC Web Site activity. The readers and exploder master can make it whatever they wish. Dick Rihn, Pres., IAC <---- End Forwarded Message ---->